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Info-Mac Digest             Fri, 29 May 92       Volume 10 : Issue 131

Today's Topics:

      [*] Gif of Newton PDA
      [*] Murph's VAPORWARE Column for June 1992
      (Q) Error 29
      [Q] Hard disk conflicts
      A suitcase II 2.0 question...
      AWK for the Mac?
      bibliographic citations in Word 4.0d (R)
      bitmaps vs. outline fonts
      CD-GALLERY from TIGERSOFTWARE (C)
      Classic Screen problem
      Completing your set of TrueType fonts: 2 cents worth
      Corrupted PostScript Files
      DeskWriter crashes
      Dynamic Simulator
      Ether/Localtalk simultaneously (A) #2
      EUDORA Problems related to LaCIE Pocket Drive
      Filling a circle with text in Freehand 3.0 (Q)
      Foreign File Access and 32-bit mode
      hard drive stiction
      How do I load in sounds (A)
      How to launch with a different memory size?
      HP DW 3.1 problems (S)
      Hypercard Question
      Icons That Revert To Generic Application Icon (Q)
      IIsi RAM Expansion (A)
      Info-Mac Digest V10 #129 (2 msgs)
      Is the Word-Mac list still alive ? ( Q )
      Macbinary after transfer? (Q)
      Mac CD players
      Norton 2.0 vs Mac Tools 2.0 (C)
      OOP externals, how?
      Quad 900... now what? (C)
      Quad 900... now what?  [A]
      Quadra&Timbuktu-no Color;AppleShare3-problem (A)
      Quadra/FileSharing Disk Formatting Problem (C)
      Removal of Balloon help & Label menus (Q)
      Sending email to the UK
      ShadowWriter & Gizmo Technologies' address
      SLIP (Q)
      Sticky Folders (Q)
      System 6 and/or 7
      Unix tar.Z format [Q]
      Virtual Memory
      Windows and Standard Functions (A)

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 15:44:43 PDT
From: The Moderators <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Gif of Newton PDA

This is a GIF of Apple's upcoming PDA (personal digital assistant) named
Newton. It's a shot of the case and pen. From Usenet.

[Archived as /info-mac/art/gif/newton.hqx; 90K]

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Date: Thu, 28 May 92 20:20:58 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Murph's VAPORWARE Column for June 1992

Vaporware also is available by email to [e-mail]
(subject ignored)
$MAC GET VAPORWARE-06-92.TXT

[Archived as /info-mac/digest/vapor/vaporware-06-92.txt; 11K]

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 14:34:05 BST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (Q) Error 29

A user here is getting constant occurances of error 29 when trying to back
up an Appleshare fileserver. Not being able to find any reference to this
error number I wondered if anybody out there has any idea.

Kevin
[e-mail]

Mail by Eudora 1.2.2

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 09:19 EDT
From: Greg Porter <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Q] Hard disk conflicts

Another question to the collective consciousness:

A friend of mine at Stanford just got a IIci without a hard drive, since they
had one already from their previous Mac.

Situation:
Hard drive + old mac = ok
Hard drive + (other) IIci (with internal hard drive) = ok
Hard drive (tested alone) = ok
IIci (without internal hard drive) = ok
New IIci + external hard drive = not ok.

The IIci has already gone to Apple and come back clean, and the external hard
drive hums along happily attached to other Macs.  Finally, a local Mac guru
took the external hard drive, cracked its shell, and plopped it in the IIci.
This worked for about 3 hours, flawlessly, and then after an application
bomb, went back to its "normal" state (fubar).

She said that she gets an "unhappy mac" if she hits the programmer switch, buty
since I am diagnosing a problem at Stanford from Virginia (and posting it back
to Stanford for help...), I can't recreate the situation to see if there are
error codes to interpret.

Thanks again.

Greg Porter
[e-mail]
      ^
      don't forget the "G"

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 00:18:35 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: A suitcase II 2.0 question...

On Thu, 28 May 1992 18:09:05 GMT you said:
>I'm running a network of 7 macs, all with Suitcase II or 2.0. Recently,
>we've been having problems with the network...  After some intensive
>trial and error, we narrowed it down to Suitcase 2.0.

If you call 5th Generation, they're likely to ask if you have the same
problem with Suitcase 2.1.  get info-mac/util/suitcase-21-updater.hqx
and see.

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 01:06:51 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Patrick Hoepfner)
Subject: AWK for the Mac?

One of the people that I work for is looking for a copy of AWK
for the Mac.  Does such a beast exist???

Shareware or Commercial

-- Pat ------------------------> [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 15:56:05 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Albrecht Hofheinz)
Subject: bibliographic citations in Word 4.0d (R)

Does Endnote Plus read MS Word's (4 and 5) footnotes?

How does it work with Nisus?

Albrecht Hofneinz
[e-mail]

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Date: 29 May 92 16:13:08 U
From: "Rick Jarvis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: bitmaps vs. outline fonts

 bitmaps vs. outline fonts
I've been using Adobe screen fonts (bitmaps) for some time now with various
styles (bold, italic, bolditalic) "harmonized" via the Suitcase utility. Hard
disk space is not a constraint and I greatly prefer the on-screen look of the
Adobe fonts. Now enter TrueType and Adobe Type Manager. I have a mixed
collection of outline fonts and would like to print to a Stylewriter using
these while preserving the look of the bitmap fonts on screen. I spoke with
Adobe technical support. They said that printer character spacing is determined
by bitmap font. Hence, I should be able to merge my Adobe screen fonts with my
TrueType outline fonts (replacing all bitmaps which come with TrueType) and
still have WYSIWYG. Does this ring true? Anyone care to provide further
information? Thanks.

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 00:21:05 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: CD-GALLERY from TIGERSOFTWARE (C)

On Wed, 27 May 92 21:39:03 EDT you said:
>On Tue, 26 May , Mai Ba Tong wrote a lot of negative things about Tiger
>Software. Like many of you, I suspect, I've received several blurbs from
>Tiger and have seen ads in the recent Mac journals. I wondered about it.
>They certainly have an ad budget up there with the biggies, yes? If you
>see a slick direct mail attack or a multi-page ad in the Mac rags, you
>might be forgiven for thinking it is a reputable company.

"Don't believe anything you read and only half of what you see." -- Will
Rodgers

I decided NOT to order anything from TigerSoftware until I learned more
(the World is full of those who'll leap before they look) when I
received a gaudy "Upgrade Certificate" for MORE (send me ____ copies! --
some "upgrade") for only $99.95.  Nice price (MacWarehouse's newest
catalog quotes $265), but in all of that sales pitch **nowhere** is a
version number mentioned (so if they send me an outdated version which
needs to be upgraded for additional $$$, then what? -- something about
"if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.")

I do not now nor have I ever owned MORE; so how am I eligible for an
"upgrade?"  Where does TigerSoftware get off offering an "upgrade" for a
Symantec product?  On top of that every "upgrade" comes with a free copy
of Sum II (a product that no longer exists, having been swallowed by
Norton 2.0).

In spite of my personal "not transferable" offer number, I could feel a
distinct tugging of my leg ;-)

Anyone order the "upgrade?"  Did they ship MORE 3.1 (and Sum II?

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 09:55:03 +0200
From: Francois Beranger (U. Ottawa) <[e-mail]>
Subject: Classic Screen problem

> From: Chris Hitchcock <[e-mail]>
>
> My Macintosh Classic has developed an intermittent screen problem.
> What happens is that there are bright white lines projected
> horizontally on the screen which jiggle, and break up the image
> slightly. They tend to appear at the top or the bottom of my screen.
> They are not always there, and vary in how annoying they are.
> They may be related to temperature. In addition, I didn't notice them
> until I came to the UK 3 months ago. [I have a Canadian Classic, and
> run it through a step-down transformer].
>
> Has anyone else had this problem? What is it? How serious is it? How
> difficult to fix is it (how much is it likely to cost)?
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
>
> Chris Hitchcock, Zoology, Oxford. ([e-mail])
>

I have a Canadian Classic which I am running in France through a step-
down transformer also. The power supply of the Macintosh works equally
well with 50 or 60 Hz, and I have no such problem as what you describe.
However, I have at work several screens very close to each others, and,
depending on the configuration, this causes very annoying white lines
across the screens. My guess is that you certainly have an electric
device close to your screen, causing magnetic disturbances to it. Check
this (note that you might be surprised that some innocent things can
have this kind of effect). If you do not find anything, check your
neighbours' devices ;-). Otherwise, I have no idea.

Francois

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Date: 28 May 92 21:25:00 CST
From: "Alff, Bryan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Completing your set of TrueType fonts: 2 cents worth

Hello all,

I just got through reading Mark Cornick's note about "Completing your set of
TrueType fonts:" and I was wondering.  The TrueType format is now available for
Windows 3.1.  Would it not be easier (and cheaper) to use the TrueType fonts
found in the Window's ftp archive located at ftp.cica.indiana.edu?  It appears
that they have at least have some of the fonts everyone is looking for.  I
don't know if they are exactly like the fonts found in the LaserWriter Plus but
I think they are pretty close.

Or, how about this.  Is it possible (and legal) for a Mac user to use the new
TrueType fonts that ship with Windows?  Are those not the same fonts that
everyone is looking for?

Oh yea, I guess I better mention how to get TrueType fonts from the Windows
archive before I get swamped with "How To Letters".  The Windows archive can
be found at the Center for Innovative Computing Applications (CICA).  Its ftp
location is ftp.cica.indiana.edu.  All of the neat font stuff is buried deep
within the archive at pub/pc/win3/fonts/truetype.  Once there, download the
file(s) you want in binary format.  Don't use Macbinary.  Then use a PKZIP
extractor such as ZIPPOP to extract the files.  Finally, the files can be
converted to Macintosh TrueType by using TT-CONVERTER-11.  Both ZIPPOP and
TT-CONVERTER-11 can be found in the Info-mac archive.

While I am at it.  Could someone please elaborate on whether or not it is legal
to copy the fonts found in Windows 3 over to the Macintosh?  I know that one
of the ideas behind TrueType is to be able to produce the same printing results
regardless of the type of machine.  What happens if my Mac and PC don't have
the same fonts?

Just wondering,

Bryan Alff
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 07:33:54 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Corrupted PostScript Files

Hello,

I have recently been trying to solve a problem that has occurred while print
files to PostScript files.  When the files are created, they have "Extra"
PostScript after the %%EOF comment.  Some of the files have as many as 8 %%EOF
markers in them.  Sometimes it seems as though the additional PostScript is and
exerpt from earlier in the file and other times it cannot be found in the file
anywhere.  The Job usually will print all of the pages to the LaserWriter, the
give an offending command for the extra text, the "flush the rest of the file.

This has occurred with several applications such as Framemaker and Ventura,
with Ventura being the biggest culprit.  The system is running 6.0.8,  so the
LaserWriter driver is version 7.0.  After Dark is also running on the machine,
along with Disinfectant.  It has occurred both with background printing turned
on and off.

Another factor involved:  After the file is created, Apple FIle Exchange is
used to transport the file onto a DOS floppy and on to a server.

Has anyone out there ever experienced anything like this?  Does anyone know of
bugs with the Apple File Exchange program that could cause this?  How about
After Dark conflicts?  I'm at a loss.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
You can reply to me directly
[e-mail]


Thanks,
Jeff

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Date: Thu, 28 May 92 21:49 EDT
From: Fred Remley <[e-mail]>
Subject: DeskWriter crashes

Has anyone else encountered a problem when using the new DeskWriter 3.1
serial driver with 32 bit addressing?  I have a Mac IIci with 20 MB of RAM,
using tuned (1.1.1) System 7.0. In the 24-bit addressing mode I can find no
fault with the new driver. However, when I use 32-bit addressing I
experience printing crashes once or twice a day, perhaps caused by
something running out of memory. The printer then begins to print a few
garbage characters per page and to spit page after page of wastepaper.

Observing "About This Macintosh" during the printing process shows that the
"Largest Unused Block" figure drops to very low values, even to zero, as
the printing proceeds.  It returns to normal (in my last test 14,000K) when
the printing finishes. The crashes seem to occur when the value drops to
zero. In 24-bit mode this effect does not occur. Multi-page documents crash
most often.

I have removed every possible startup, extension and control panel (using
Extensions Manager), to no avail. It does not matter if background printing
is on or not. It seems to be application independent (Word, Excel, others,
will experience the crash when printing).  Yesterday I installed the
DeskWriter C serial driver and the same  memory disappearance occurs in
32-bit mode, but so far I've not had a crash during printing. I have also
used MAXIMA in extended memory mode with no problem. Only when using
32-bit addressing is there trouble.

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 19:37:28 EDT
From: ERTUGRUL GOKCEN <[e-mail]>
Subject: Dynamic Simulator

  Hi netters,
  There once used to be a file named Dynamic Simulator on the archives, but I
can't seem to locate it neither on sumex nor on the mirrors. Does anybody know
where I can get it from, or better, mail me a copy? I badly need it because if
I can't get hold of it, I will have to do my homework on a PC! :-(

  Ertugrul Gokcen
  [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 19:07:41 PDT
From: Kee Nethery <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ether/Localtalk simultaneously (A) #2

Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 13:03:04 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Wade Williams)
Subject: Ether/Localtalk simultaneously (A)

>>Does anyone know if you can use both the ethernet and localtalk ports
>>of the Quadra simultaneously?  ie, for example, connect a localtalk
>>printer on the machine while it is connected to a ethernet network.


>No, you cannot.  Incidentally, that doesn't apply only to Quadras, it
>applies to any Mac.

-- sound of loud buzzer ---
Your answer is incorrect.
The correct answer is: Yes you can if you install the Apple Internet Router
on your Mac. Your Mac becomes a router between EtherTalk and the
LaserWriter on your LocalTalk.

:-)
Kee
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 11:39:28 PDT
From: "Tom Wilson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: EUDORA Problems related to LaCIE Pocket Drive

Well, to follow up on my sob story, I was having problems with EUDORA (my
favorite communications software) and I tried everything short of
accu-puncture to get EUDORA to open some of its own files.  I kept getting
"wrong volume type" and eventually, EUDORA had to quit.

After reformatting my hard drive, switching hard drives, rebuilding my
desktop, running Norton Disk Doctor, First Aid, booting from another disk,
etc. I finally pulled the power plug on my LaCIE Pocket 40 and the problems
went away.

I still don't know the details, but it has something to do with SCSI and
the ADP port.  When I reconnected the Pocket 40, I plugged its power cable
(it gets 5 volts from the ADP port) into its own ADP port rather than
following the instructions and connecting the power cable (it has a "T"
connector) into the ADP port and then plugging the keyboard/mouse
combination into the "T".  EUDORA continued to perform normally with all
functions working.

After a while, though, I was unable to use the "NEW MESSAGE" command
(although the "NEW MESSAGE TO ..." command stil works.  I get the "wrong
volume type" error message from EUDORA and then it quits.

I know about the 500ma, 3-ADP devices/port, limitations and I reminded
LaCIE via FAX just moments ago (no response just yet).  If I can just get
this problem solved, I'll be "happier than a pig in ....." well, you get
the picture.

Tom Wilson
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
<[e-mail]>

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 15:54:13 MET DST
From: [e-mail] (Andreas Lietz)
Subject: Filling a circle with text in Freehand 3.0 (Q)

Hello netters,

I have trie, but I have not succeeded in filling a circle with text in
Freehand 3.0. I know how to join the text with the circle to let it flow
neatly around the circle, but how do I fill the circle (or another shape)
with text?

Thanks for your help

  Andy Lietz.

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 11:10:46 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Foreign File Access and 32-bit mode

    I just when through a long process to figure out why I couldn't
    startup my machine in 32-bit mode and it turns out it was
    because of just one file, Foreing File Access. It took that file
    out and I am able to start my machine fine. Why is this file
    not 32-bit clean? Isn't it an Apple Program. Do I need a newer
    version of the CD Installer? Well I just thought I would pass
    along this experience.

    Troy Kelley

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Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 23:27:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: hard drive stiction

>hi,
>my mac won't boot up about half the time when i start it cold. i get the
>disk with question mark icon. but if i then turn it off and on again, it always
>starts fine. i remember people saying this is because the hard disk didn't
>warm up in time. anyway, is there anything that can be done about this and
>is it a sign of worse to come?
>mac IIx, system 6.0.8

You're probably suffering from a mild case of stiction.  The drive is
sticking, but a subsequent restart gives it just enough of a push to
get it going.

Yes, it's probably a sign of worse to come.  No, there's nothing you
can do about it except keep you data backed up.


If your drive is a Quantum as many of Apple's drives are, and you've had it
for more than 3 years, then take it to your Apple service center and have them
install the new ROMs for that drive.  The new ROMs apply more touque to the
drive on a cold start.  This should be a free service, but I could be wrong.

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Date: Thu, 28 May 92 22:05:40 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: How do I load in sounds (A)

On Thu, 28 May, Wendell Gee (Zim?) wrote:

>I have had a bunch of mac sounds laying around, but cant seem to
>get them into the control panel to use them.
>How, in general, does one load a bunch of new sounds into a mac?

Zim, there are a myriad of ways to "load sounds" in general. What exactly
are you trying to do? SoundMover will turn just about any noise file into
a System 7 double-clickable sound that you can put in your startup or
shutdown items folder. My favorite way of "loading sounds" is Sound
Master. It, and other utilities, let you assign certain sounds to various
actions -- startup, restart, shutdown, disk request, etc. For example, I
combine my Politically Incorrect Personal Computer startup screen (from
last week's Sunday "Outland" comic strip) with an apparently sweet young
thing saying "Hello, master. What can I do for you today?" My system beep
is now a snort from a Vietnamese pig, and Monty Python's "Holy Grail"
bunch yells "Runaway! Runaway!" when I shut down.

That what you had in mind? Sound Mover and Sound Master are archived.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: 29 May 92 10:57:59 GMT
From: scarab <[e-mail]>
Subject: How to launch with a different memory size?

[e-mail] (Doug Hardie) writes:

>I seem to recall seing a combination of characters that when used along with a
>double click on an icon allowed you to specify a different size from what is
>contained in the size resource.  I have looked through the archive and can't
>seem to find it again.  These are the things that should be in Finder Shortcuts
>rather that the commonly used features.  I would appreciate if anyone remembers
>how to do that would send me a note.  Thanks,

>-- Doug

    Check out the shareware (US$19.95) utility called AppSize.  I just
got it a couple of days ago from sumex, so I haven't had a chance
actually to try it out, but it's meant to be very handy according to the
most recent TidBITS.

Cheers,
Gregory Mulhauser
University of Edinburgh
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 28 May 92 21:37:28 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Leo Leduc)
Subject: HP DW 3.1 problems (S)

Hello netters,

I'm posting this brief summary of the answers which I received relating to
my problems with version 3.1 of the HP DeskWriter drivers.

Although I received only a few responses to my original call for help, it
seems that some people are experiencing similar problems (rebooting) with
the new drivers.  The problem develops on different Macs (SE/30, SE,
Classic, etc.) and systems (6.07 & 7.0).  Also, users having problems with
the drivers under System 7.0 have installed the Tune Up.

One user suggested that I remove the system files (i.e. background printing)
which are written to disk during the installation.  This recommendation
seems to reduce the frequency of reboots but does not eliminate them
entirely.  I have also experimented with removing inits without much
success.

Hoping that this information helps those having problems with the drivers.

Leo G. Leduc
CANADA
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 09:37:46 edt
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Hypercard Question

If I have a stack that was created using an older rev of hypercard
and wish to view it using a _NEWer_ rev. is there a way? I just get a
dialog box with "this stack was created with an older rev ... (etc)"
and the application fails to open the stack.
What do I do?

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 12:21:00 MST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Icons That Revert To Generic Application Icon (Q)

An associate of mine, who happens to be a graphics artists, put all of his
paint programs on an external hard drive.  In addition, he put aliases of
them on his internal hard drive.  However, unless he rebuilds the desktop
each time, the paint program icons default to the generic application icon.

I thought it might be the following so if someone could give me any
insight, I would greatly appreciate it.

His CPU is a MAC IIx and his external HD is a PowerDrive (fairly new).  I
thought that the old quantum installed in the IIx wasn't fast enough to
recognize the "real icons" from the external HD.  Is this possible?

The problem went away when he installed his paint programs on the internal
IIx hard drive.  But, this is not what he wants to do unfortunately.

Any suggestions from the gurus out there?

Thanks

Dave Wanderer
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 04:26:46 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Tony Kavadias)
Subject: IIsi RAM Expansion (A)

Someone wrote in reply to Alberto's post:

> Alberto, one must not mix SIMM sizes in the same bank. However,
> are you sure the si has two banks of two instead of one bank of four?

The IIsi has one bank of 4 SIMMs, while the other bank of 1MB is soldered onto
the motherboard.

The memory configurations possible are:

    2MB: 1MB + 4 * 256K SIMMs
    3MB: 1MB + 4 * 512K SIMMs
    5MB: 1MB + 4 * 1MB SIMMs
    9MB: 1MB + 4 * 2MB SIMMs
    17MB: 1MB + 4 * 4MB SIMMs

Answer your questions?


    tony_kavadias(all_graphic) {
        /* Comments are STRICTLY my own; no-one elses */
        [e-mail] = internet_addr(all_graphic);

        exit(0);
    }

P.S.  Please, don't try to mail back yet - you won't get through.

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 16:45:43 EST
From: Jonathan Kamien <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #129

Subject: Looking for Gumby and Pokey picture

  Can anyone point me towards a scan or drawing of Gumby, Pokey's pal?
  MacPaint or PICT would be best, but any format would be great!
  Jonathan ([e-mail])

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 17:44:36 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Jueychong Ong)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #129

>Date: Tue, 26 May 92 10:46:47 EDT
>From: CYMT000 <[e-mail]>
>Subject: CD-GALLERY from TIGERSOFTWARE [?]
>
>Hi netters
>
>I am writing this in order to know if anyone has the same
>problem with ordering Tigersoftware product.
>
>I have ordered a Nec CD gallery with CDR-73 Reader a few
>months a go with fairly good deal. I called and check every
>week but they keep saying that Rthe product is still in back
>order, it should be coming in this weekS. They kept saying that
>for more than a month. Finally it arrived but only the CD
>reader (the CD gallery package from Nec) not the eight free
>CDPROM. I called again and again and they always says: Rit is
>still in back order. I donUt know what is going on there. It
>makes me upset because if they don't have the product in
>stock yet they should not put "an attractive add" repeatedly on
>magazine. Here is their adds.
>
> etc....

Sorry to hear about your problems with Tigersoftware. I don't have any
experience with them, but you may like to know that MacZone and MacConnection
are selling the same CD Gallery product for slightly less than Tigersoftware.
So if you're frustrated with Tigersoftware, perhaps you could try to
return what you received and go with the two vendors I mentioned.

Do note that the CD Gallery is a very popular product. I've ordered two
of them from MacZone before, and twice they were backordered (once for
over a month). Expected shipping dates are no help, because NEC has (had?)
problems keeping up with the demand.

Also be warned that NEC's technical support is not very good, from my
experience. One of the CDR-73s I ordered died after three months
and I sent it to NEC for repair. It returned to me still dead on arrival.
It's now back at NEC, and I'm waiting for it....


--jc
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 17:24:06 SET
From: Matthias <[e-mail]>
Subject: Is the Word-Mac list still alive ? ( Q )

Dear friends of the WORD,
I completely lost contact with the WORD-MAC list since it moved to
LOKI.UNE.EDU.AU . The last issue I got is Vol 3, Num 37 (MAY 1, 1992).
Since then ... silence.
I sent several mails to WORD-MAC-REQUEST for a (re-)subscription,
I sent mail to RDEBRECE to ask what is going one, but no answer so far.

 Does anybody out there know what happened to the WORD-MAC ? Does
anybody have any advice whom I could contact for further subscription?

Thanks in advance for your help, Matthias.

Matthias Schroder
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 14:52:33 EDT
From: Clinton Collins <[e-mail]>
Subject: Macbinary after transfer? (Q)

A friend wants to download macintosh files from a DOS based BBS to
his DOS PC and then transfer the files to macintosh computers which
do not have modems.  He told me that self extracting archives were
showing up as documents instead of applications.  I told him that the
files are probably in Macbinary format and that popular Macintosh
transfer programs decode the file as it is being transferred?  Am I
right?  What needs to be done to get the files properly over to the
Macintoshes?  Would he do a binary transfer and then decode the
Macbinary files with a "Macbinary decoder" on the Macintoshes?

Send help to Clinton Collins, [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 14:06:14 EDT
From: Isabel Kaplan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac CD players

I am seeking advice on using a CD player with a Mac SE30 with 5mb of RAM.
Recomendations for or against products/models would be appreciated.  We
expect to use the CD with Soft-AT which will enable us to use IBM or Mac CD
products.  Please reply to [e-mail].

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Date: Thu, 28 May 92 22:44:23 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Norton 2.0 vs Mac Tools 2.0 (C)

On Thu, 28 May, Joe Rinella wrote:

>        I was wondering if there was anyone out there that would pass
>along their experiences with these two products.  Specifically,
>is Mac Tools 2 worth the $49 to upgrade?  I have upgraded to Norton 2
>and am pleased.  It appears to me that Mac Tools has a lot of redundant
>utilities if one owns Norton.  Am I right?  (Aside from the new Central
>Point Anti-virus --- as far as I am concerned Disinfectant has always
>done the job for me :-) )

Joe, I just got my Central Point MacTools 2 today. Norton 2 came a couple
weeks ago. I thought Norton was a disappointment, but CP is one, too.
They removed two of my favorite toys. FastCopy has been my favorite copy
and formatting program for a long while. I tried Norton's Floppier four
times and got three disks that Finder offered to format or eject. Leslye
found the same problem with Norton DiskLight (Her II has no built-in HD
activity light) that others have reported -- random reads to the HD for
no apparent reason that went away when NDL was removed. CP also did away
with Secure in the new version. They used to post Secure'd updates on
their BBS, so anyone with a valid MacTools could download and unSecure
the new versions of their tools.

I'm keeping my 1.2 copies of FastCopy and Secure. In addition to my
ancient Copy II Mac.

What drives me batty with the new MacTools is the way the extensions act
when they load. Scheduler and Mirror both wipe the screen as they load,
so I lose my startup screen real quick, and the normal progression of
icons across the screen gets horribly discombobulated.

I still trust MacTools Optimizer farther than I can throw Speed Disk.
After my one and only Speed Disk 2 run, both AutoDoubler and Disk
Doubler accused me of having pirated copies.

I couldn't care less about their backup programs. I use Retrospect.

All told, I think both Symantec and Central Point could have done better.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 01:52:31 CDT
From: "Paul M. Sheldon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: OOP externals, how?

   How can MPW linker alias pick up OOPascal external procedures?
   I submitted a vaguer question to the digest, but now the idea is getting
clearer since someone responded with interest from Australia.
Thanks, Quinn, my questions do get clearer with a friendly audience.
   Here's a growing notion. When objects are compiled separately they must
retain some of the English source code strings for use by the linker to build
with them. For example, my modula would generate an external name that has
module name _ internal name.
   How do I build an Apple Object Oriented Pascal external name!!!??
Once I have interlingual program capabilities, I can have the best of all
worlds and grow.
   Thanx in advance.

   Paul M. Sheldon

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 00:23:20 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Quad 900... now what? (C)

On Thu, 28 May 92 8:30:32 EDT you said:
>To those poor, poor Quadra 900 owners... we bought the latest hardware
>not 6 months ago, and now, we have been phased out!  I'd like to get a
>general feeling from current Quadra 900 owners... how do you feel about
>the quick death of the Q900, and the EXPENSIVE! ($1499?) upgrade path to
>the Q950?  I currently feel incredibly furious!  I bought the latest and
>greatest from Apple, and then, am dropped like a cold fish from Apple...
>if the 950 upgrade were only less expensive (say, $600 or $700), I
>wouldn't bitch... but the machine I thought was hi-tech has been lost
>from the lines of Apple.

If you bite the proverbial bullet and upgrade, you're REALLY gonna be
frosted in another 6 months.  Everything I read about "cyclone" (the
current code name) indicates it's going to be a heck of a Mac.  However,
even if Apple offers a really attractive upgrade, I'm not gonna.  I got
the Quadra 700 on the notion that it does everything thing I need to do
with some room for growth.  Cyclone won't change that; I've enjoyed the
Quadra since last November 4 and I'll enjoy it for several more years.

I'm holding out for the SECOND generation (at least) PowerPC (100
SPECMarcs for $3,000 will be powerful tempting -- especially if Casper
even begins to realize its promise by then (a desktop computer that
would make even Star Trek's Mr. Scott happy ;-)  Maybe 1995 (or 6).

Last time I heard, Apple hasn't abandoned the Mac PLUS!  System 7 run on
a Plus, for example.  Sure, a stock Mac Plus + a hard drive won't run
everything, but it has more capability today than it did when it was
brand new (ask any owner of a PeeCee of the same vintage if the same can
be said for their MeSsy DOS box).  I expect that Apple and lots of
third-party developers will continue offering products for the 900 for a
long-time to come.

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 14:45:05 CST
From: Randy Bradley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Quad 900... now what?  [A]

>  I'd like to get a general feeling from current Quadra 900 owners... how do
>ou feel about the quick death of the Q900, and the EXPENSIVE! ($1499?) upgrade
>ath to the Q950?  I currently feel incredibly furious!  I bought the latest

   Chill out Dude!  As long as it meets your needs, the machine is not
obsolete.  If you buy a new car and next year you find out that they do
not sell the same model do you bitch?  You car still has the same specs
as when you bought it.  Meanwhile you got to use it for some time.

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 11:08:56 CDT
From: Larry Pickett <[e-mail]>
Subject: Quadra&Timbuktu-no Color;AppleShare3-problem (A)

Two things I want to check out with the group.
1.  I think I understand this but just to be sure.  When I remove the
    Keyboard and Monitor(RGB) from out Quadra 950 doing server duty.
    I loose the color when I connect with Timbuktu 3.0.  Is there any
    way to retain the color,larger screen without a video card and
    without the monitor being connected.  When the monitor is connected
    the color is fine and the screen is larger than the 9" version.

2.  We just had one of our Apple Share 3.0 file servers lockup with
    "too many files open" error message.  Only 8 users at the time
    and it persisted even when the 8 disconnected.  Rebooting solved
    the problem but is this likely to reoccur and is there a way to
    avoid the problem.

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 00:24:13 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Quadra/FileSharing Disk Formatting Problem (C)

On Thu, 28 May 92 16:08:42 EDT you said:
>I have a problem which has me stumped. I have a Quadra 700 running the
>standard File Sharing for a couple of folders on my machine. The problem
>is that when I try to format a disk, it gets to varying stages of
>formatting, then hangs the computer. I have tried turning everything
>else off except for File Sharing, and I get the same problem. If I have
>evrything on except for File Sharing, it formats with no problems. I
>have tried it with both 32 bit on and off. My machine has 20 meg of RAM,
>running System 7.0.1, and Tuneup v1.1.1.

I don't have the problem.  I'm running a Quadra 700 with 54 extensions +
control panels.  I mounted the startup volume on a PB 170 and started
copying a folder from the Q700 to the PB 170, then I popped an
unformatted disk into the Quadra and formatted it normally.  Naturally,
the PowerBook didn't make much progress with the copy while the floppy
formatting was running (no surprise, if you want to get a notion of how
sharing unfriendly formatting is, try it with The Sound Trecker running
in the background -- if floppy formatting needs 90+ percent of a
Quadra's cycles, how does a Plus ever format a floppy?? :)

I expect the significant difference between your Quadra 700 and mine is
that I've installed AppleTalk 57.0.3.  If you haven't updated AppleTalk,
you've probably discovered yet another in the list of incompatibilities
between Quadras and AppleTalk 56 (which is what's on vanilla 7.0.1).
The easiest update to AppleTalk 57.0.3 is to get
dts/mac/sys.soft/netcomm/net-soft-install-1-2-image.hqx from
ftp.apple.com

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Date: Thu, 28 May 92 20:58:32 EDT
From: Kitto <[e-mail]>
Subject: Removal of Balloon help & Label menus (Q)

Could someone please tell me how to remove the balloon help and label menus
>From finder v7.0? I assume that this is doable, and am surprised that I haven't
yet seen anyone discuss it. For those of us with compact macs, menu space is
clearly at a premium. Any chance of Apple making this a Views option in the
upcoming Sys7.1 upgrade? Hmmm,- actually, for those of us using Apollo (great
program!), info on the possiblity of removing the application switching menu
could also be very helpful. Please, anyone?
Thanks in advance.

                  Kitto

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 00:17:12 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sending email to the UK

On Wed, 27 May 92 23:13:11 you said:
>I have tried sending mail to [e-mail] however, the mailer does not
>seem to like the address.

Some gateways mangle valid addresses into unworkable shadows of their
former selves, others leave invalid addresses as they are instead of
fixing them.  Most UK gateways account for the JANET (UK)/Internet
address differences, but sjs seems to have found one that doesn't.

So, one more time.  In the UK they drive on the other side of the road
and use email addresses that run in the other direction.  To send mail
to sjs from the Internet side, turn it around to [e-mail] (York
isn't a domain, but UK is ;-)

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 16:00:40 EST
From: Thomas Fruin  <[e-mail]>
Subject: ShadowWriter & Gizmo Technologies' address

Ever since I posted the message about ShadowWriter, people have been sending
me mail requesting the maker's address. Yes, the thought occurred to me I
should have included the address when I sent the message, but I didn't have
it at the time ...

I also just read the press release for ShadowWriter 2.0, which is even more
impressive. They also lowered the price 40%.

ShadowWriter is printing software that transforms personal printers into
network-shareable printers, such as Apple personal printers (ImageWriter I,
II and LQ, StyleWriter, Personal LaserWriter LS, Personal LaserWriter SC and
LaserWriter IISC) AND third party serial-connected printers, most color
printers and plotters on the market (eg the HP DeskWriter series and others).
You simply select your printer in the Chooser using the ShadowWriter software
and print.

Requires a Macintosh Plus or larger; 2 MB of RAM; and System 6.0.2 or later
running MultiFinder, or System 7. I have personally tried version 1.1 of the
product (which only supported the StyleWriter and LaserWriters) and loved it.

Please note that ShadowWriter does not turn your personal printer into a
full-fledged network printer comparable to a LaserWriter II. Your personal
printer is slower, and does not support PostScript. However, it's a GREAT
way to share a printer, though.

ShadowWriter even has a password feature to protect printers, something not
even Apple's own LaserWriters have.

The maker is Gizmo Technologies; PO Box 14177; Fremont, CA 94539;
             Phone: [phone].  Fax: [phone].  AppleLink: GIZMOTECH.

ShadowWriter is distributed in the US by Merisel/Macamerica.

Retail price: US$ 109. This gives you the "server" software for the Macintosh
to which the printer (or printers) are connected, and client software for
ALL of the Macs in your network. You will need an extra server if you wish to
share printers connected to other Macs. By all means a bargain!

Disclaimer: I have no relationship whatsoever with Gizmo Technologies. (I'm
too far away for that ;)

-- Thomas Fruin          Santiago, Chile           [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 28 May 92 18:25:47 PDT
From: [e-mail] (James Davis)
Subject: SLIP (Q)

Ok..Since I was informed that PPP isnt availible for the Mac yet,
I went back to our campus rep, and asked again about SLIP.  This
time I was told it is availible.  So now I'm wondering about
free/shareware SLIP clients.  However since I dont expect that
any exist, I'll happily take recommendations for commercial,
preferably cheap ones.  Im not completely confident that Ill get it up
and running, so Im not anxious to buy commercial.  At least shareware
I can try all the connections first.

Thanks again,
James Davis ([e-mail]) : University of California, Davis

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 11:06 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sticky Folders (Q)

I'm having some random events that are concerning me.  I seem to have
a sticky folder problem.  I thought I was suffering the "disappearing
folder" phenomenon but no! - I found the folder directly behind another
one.  Maybe this IS the disappearing folder phenomenon?

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Jeff Luck
CES Systems Office
Penn State University
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 10:56:27 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: System 6 and/or 7

Q.1:  Some Macs can run either System 6 or System 7, whereas others can run
only System 7.  Can anyone provide a definative list?  I am particlularly
interested in the Classic II and the LC II, but a complete list would be
helpful, since I am  shopping for a new machine.

<Flame on>  A machine that can run either Sys. 6 or Sys. 7 is, in an
obvious sense, functionally superior to one that requires Sys.7.  Why is
Apple now producing a line of functionally "inferior" machines?  (I'll skip
the standard flame about how System 7 eats up too much hardware resources.)
 <Flame off>

Q.2:  Someone on our e-mail net posted the following message:
>I just returned from a meeting with Apple today and was informed that
>they have developed a System 6.08L  (The number might be slightly
>wrong and is not to be confused with their last 6.08 release).  This
>new system is for Classic II's Powerbook 100's 140's (I am not sure of
>the 170's and the LC II's to run under system 6.
But our technical people have been unable to confirm the content of the
message, or to get any further information.  Does anyone know about this
new version of Sys. 6?

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 15:50:10 CST
From: Randy Bradley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Unix tar.Z format [Q]

   I'm real new to unix and I would like to ftp the popper pop3 server
that was mentioned here a few days ago.  I take it that the tar.Z
suffix means it was first tar'ed, then zipped.  Can anyone tell me where
I can find the zip program that the .Z indicates?  Tell me if I'm all
wet here! ;-)   Thanks.

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 10:09:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (VAX Academic Support)
Subject: Virtual Memory

Hi.

First I want to thank everyone who responded to my query.  As I mentioned to
one person, I was swamped with so much mail that I felt like a celebrity.

Regarding my virtual memory problem, I DID increase the application memory size
as many of you suggested.  However, at this point I believe the culprit is a
corrupted file.  I will double check this and post my findings to the list.  If
the problem persists, I will provide more detail.  Unfortunately, duty calls
now and I must respond to more fan mail :-)

Many thanks again to all of you, and I WILL keep you posted.

j

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Date: Fri, 29 May 92 08:38:28 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Windows and Standard Functions (A)

From:  Jerry Wilcox             ISCJCW@UCCVMA    [phone]
Subject: Windows and Standard Functions (A)

To add just a bit to what Wade Williams suggested, Mark and Reed also have
completed Volume 1 of the Macintosh Programming Primer for Pascal. I don't
have it here at the office, and I can't recall the exact title, but it is an
excellent introduction to programming the Mac in Pascal.

Disclaimer: These are my own personal opinions, not my employer's.
+ Jerry Wilcox -- [e-mail] -- phone: [phone] +

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